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Steve Kamb on Why He Had to Fire Himself Twice

Oct 6, 2026 · 44m

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About this episode

What happens when the business you built pulls you away from the work you do best? Steve Kamb, founder of Nerd Fitness and author of How to Try Again , joins Karl Staib to explore that question. After growing his company to roughly 40–50 employees, Steve realized that leading a larger team was taking him further from his strengths: researching, writing, and connecting with people through ideas. Steve shares why he had to step away from leadership roles twice before finding his way back to writing. Instead of making one dramatic leap, he used small experiments to reduce his meeting load, shift responsibilities, and learn what fit. The conversation explores how to reconsider your goals, build…