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Extreme Athlete Laird Hamilton on Fear, Flow State and Giant Waves | Full Interview

Sep 30, 2026 · 2h 15m

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About this episode

In today's episode, Jordan sits down with Laird Hamilton, the big wave surfer and tow-in surfing innovator, for a wide-ranging conversation on facing fear, finding flow state and building a life around constant pursuit. Laird explains how he learned to read the ocean, why he sees surfers as wave readers first and riders second, and how a lifetime in giant surf has shaped his relationship with risk and mortality. Laird takes us back to his childhood in Hawaii, where he first learned about the ocean at Pipeline, one of the most dangerous beaches in the world. He describes growing up poor and feeling like an outcast on land, and why the ocean became his sanctuary. He explains how repeated…