
Fear, Power, and the Rule of Law: Lee Gelernt on America's Immigration Crisis
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About this episode
Immigration enforcement in the United States has entered uncharted territory. In this episode, Dr. Thoại Ngô is joined by Lee Gelernt, Senior Attorney with the ACLU's Immigrants' Rights Project, to examine what's changed — and why it matters far beyond the immigrant communities most directly affected. Gelernt discusses the unprecedented scale of immigration enforcement since January 2025, the invocation of the 1798 Alien Enemies Act against an alleged Venezuelan gang, and the reshaping of im...