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Do Hard Things Podcast

Do Hard Things Podcast

Do Hard Things A Podcast With Gabe Lullo Ft. Ellie Gordon

Oct 19, 2026 · 35m

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"None of us engage perfectly with technology when we're overwhelmed or stressed. You shouldn't build a system that requires perfect engagement in order to be useful." - Ellie Gordon Ellie spent 17 years building technology that improves people's lives. What pulled her into addiction and recovery was personal. She has lost loved ones, helped friends through severe struggles, and worked through her own challenges. Her hometown of Pittsburgh was hit hard by the opioid crisis, and she says that when you watch that happen to your community, you can't not help. She kept coming back to a gap. Someone can have a great counselor, but they might spend an hour with a provider and the rest of the week…