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The Argument

The Argument

Why AI might not replace us after all

Jul 23, 2026 · 1h 5m

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Most Americans fear that AI is about to cause widespread job losses, so Matt Yglesias and Jerusalem Demsas brought in their first-ever guest, Timothy B. Lee of the Understanding AI newsletter, to break it all down. Matt thinks a white-collar wipeout is coming. Jerusalem and Tim think we've got enough time to adapt. Plus, a peer review on a new paper about the effects of mixed-use zoning. (00:00) Our first guest: Tim Lee on AI and jobs (02:27) Matt's case for the white-collar wipeout (05:43) Jobs are bundles of tasks (08:26) The O-ring theory: why one human still matters (18:02) Tim's answer: it's all about timescales (21:27) Chess, Starbucks, and the human preference problem (24:28) The…