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The Lawfare Podcast

Lawfare Archive: AI Policy Under Technological Uncertainty, with Alex “amac” Macgillivray

Jul 26, 2025 · 41m

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From July 23, 2024: Alan Rozenshtein, Associate Professor at the University of Minnesota Law School and Senior Editor at Lawfare , and Matt Perault, the Director of the Center on Technology Policy at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill, sat down with Alexander Macgillivray, known to all as "amac," who was the former Principle Deputy Chief Technology Officer of the United States in the Biden Administration and General Counsel at Twitter. amac recently wrote a piece for Lawfare about making AI policy in a world of technological uncertainty, and Matt and Alan talked to him about how to do just that. To receive ad-free podcasts, become a Lawfare Material Supporter at…