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Lawfare Daily: What’s Behind Russian Incursions Into NATO

Sep 23, 2025 · 1h 2m

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In this episode, Lawfare’ s Ukraine Fellow Anastasiia Lapatina sits down with Minna Ålander, an associate fellow at Chatham House Europe Program, and Mykhailo Soldatenko, a scholar of international law and a doctoral candidate at Harvard Law School, to discuss Russia’s recent air incursions into Poland and Estonia, and whether NATO’s response to it has been proportional. For more, read a report about Russian hybrid warfare co-authored by Minna Ålander. To receive ad-free podcasts, become a Lawfare Material Supporter at www.patreon.com/lawfare . You can also support Lawfare by making a one-time donation at https://givebutter.com/lawfare-institute . Support this show http:/…