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The Lawfare Podcast

The Lawfare Podcast

Scaling Laws: Contrasting and Conflicting Efforts to Regulate Big Tech: EU v. U.S.

Sep 5, 2025 · 47m

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Anu Bradford, Professor at Columbia Law School, and Kate Klonick, Senior Editor at Lawfare and Associate Professor at St. John's University School of Law, join Kevin Frazier, AI Innovation and Law Fellow at the University of Texas School of Law and a Senior Editor at Lawfare , to assess the ongoing, contrasting, and, at times, conflicting regulatory approaches to Big Tech being pursued by the EU and U.S. The trio start with an assessment of the EU’s use of the Brussels Effect, coined by Anu, to shape AI development. Next, they explore the U.S.’s increasingly interventionist industrial policy with respect to key sectors, especially tech. Read more: Anu’s op-ed in The New York Times "The…